The National Build Intensity on Conan


After a playing a daylight set before thousands of fans last weekend at Outside Lands in San Francisco, the National took on a more intimate gig last night when they performed on a dimly lit stage onConan. The band played "This Is the Last Time," and singer Matt Berninger harmonized with his bandmates over drummer Bryan Devendorf's unerring rhythm and sparks of guitar from Aaron Dessner and Bryce Dessner as the song built in volume and intensity. "This Is the Last Time" comes from the National's most recent album, Trouble Will Find Me, which came out in May.

Deadpool 2 Stuntwoman Killed in Motorcycle Crash on Set


A stuntwoman was killed on the Vancouver set of Deadpool 2 Monday while filming a sequence involving a motorcycle in the Canadian city.

CTV News Vancouver reports that the stuntwoman, whose name was withheld by authorities, lost control of her motorcycle while filming the stunt and crashed through the ground floor window of nearby Shaw Tower.

An ambulance loaded the victim to take her to the hospital, but the emergency vehicle remained at the scene for 45 minutes before pulling away with its lights and sirens off. Vancouver police announced soon after that the stuntwoman had died following the accident.

Vancouver Police can confirm that a female stunt driver has died on the set of Deadpool during a stunt on a motorcycle, Vancouver police said in a statement, adding that they were investigating the incident alongside WorkSafeBC.

The victim is believed to be the stunt double for Deadpool 2 and Atlanta actress Zazie Beetz, who plays Domino in the 2018 sequel.According to Entertainment Weekly, the stuntwoman was wearing the same clothes and riding the same Ducati motorcycle Beetz was photographed in just days ago

The death on the Deadpool 2 set comes a month after a stuntman was killed in an on-set accident while shooting The Walking Dead in Atlanta. Production on the zombie series eighth season was temporarily halted following the death of John Bernecker after he fell 20 feet off a balcony and onto a concrete floor.

Sony CEO Defends Interview Decision: We Have Not Caved


Michael Lynton, the CEO of Sony Pictures Entertainment, says that the situation surrounding the studios decision to cancel the release of The Interview is more complicated than it seems, according toThe Hollywood Reporter. In an interview with CNN that will air later tonight, the exec said that the public was unaware of the amount of resistance Sony was getting on a large scale, regarding the movies release in the wake of cyber-terrorist threats.

I think actually the unfortunate part is, in this instance, the president, the press and the public are mistaken as to what actually happened, he said. We do not own movie theaters. We cannot determine whether or not a movie will be played in movie theaters.

He then broke down the series of events, as he saw it, that led up to President Obama criticizing Sony in a recent speech. We experienced the worst cyber-attack in American history and persevered for three and a half weeks under enormous stress and enormous difficulty, he said. The movie theaters came to us one by one over the course of a very short time we were very surprised by it they announced that they would not carry the movie. At that point in time, we had no alternative to not proceed with a theatrical release on the 25th of December. We have not caved. We have not given in. We have persevered.

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When pressed about alternative ways to release the movie, Lynton said that there is still hope yet. There are a number of options open to us and we have considered those and are considering them, he said. As it stands right now while there have been a number of suggestions that we go out there and deliver this movie digitally or through VOD, there has not been one major VOD video on demand distributor one major e-commerce site that has stepped forward and said they are willing to distribute this movie for us. Again, we dont have that direct interface with the American public so we need to go through an intermediary to do that.

Earlier today, Obama called Sonys decision to cancel the Christmas Day release a mistake, saying that as a society, we should not bow to the demands of a dictator. Im sympathetic that Sony, as a private company, was worried about liabilities and this and that and the other, the President said. I wish theyd spoken to me first. I would have told them, Do not get into a pattern in which youre intimidated by these kinds of criminal attacks.'

Yesterday, Sony released a statement that said it had no further plans to release the picture.

On Wednesday, after a group calling itself Guardians of Peace which was responsible for hacking into Sonys e-mail system and is linked to North Korea hinted at a 9/11-style attack on theaters that screened the movie, Sony decided to cancel the release of The Interview, which depicts an assassination attempt on North Korean supreme leader Kim Jong-un.

The decision followed an offer on the part of Sony for theaters to decide not to screen the film. After five major theater chains backed out, Sony pulled the plug. We respect and understand our partners decision and, of course, completely share their paramount interest in the safety of employees and theatergoers, the company said in a statement.

Lyntons full interview with CNNs Fareed Zakaria will air on Anderson Cooper 360 tonight at 8 p.m. EST.

In addition to Lyntons statements, the company has released a new statement, addressing criticism that it it censored itself as well asits plans about a possible future release. It reads in full below via Buzzfeed:

Sony Pictures Entertainment is and always has been strongly committed to the First Amendment. For more than three weeks, despite brutal intrusions into our company and our employees personal lives, we maintained our focus on one goal: getting the film The Interview released. Free expression should never be suppressed by threats and extortion.

The decision not to move forward with the December 25th theatrical release of The Interview was made as a result of the majority of the nations theater owners choosing not to screen the film. That was their decision.

Let us be clear the only decision that we have made with respect to the release of the film was not to release it on Christmas Day in theaters, after theater owners declined to show it. Without theaters, we could not release it in the theaters on Christmas Day. We had no choice.

After that decision, we immediately began actively surveying alternatives to enable us to release the movie on a different platform. It is still our hope that anyone who wants to see this movie will get the opportunity to do so.

Watch Michael Moore Parse Madness of Trump Era in Fahrenheit 11/9 Trailer


Michael Moore tries to parse the chaos of Donald Trumps presidency in the first trailer for his new documentary, Fahrenheit 11/9. The film opens September 21st.

In the clip, Moore dubs Trump the last president of the United States, and much of the trailer highlights the increasingly polarized nature of American politics under Trump. Theres footage of KKK and neo-Nazis burning crosses and swastikas juxtaposed with an interview with Parkland shooting survivor and activist David Hogg. One moment, informal Trump advisor Roger Stonewarns about a violent uprising if Congress tries to impeach Trump, while the next rising progressive star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezknocks on doors and hands out fliers.

Moore announced Fahrenheit 11/9 last spring. The films title is both a reference to the day after the 2016 election, as well as a play on Moores scathing 2004 film about George W. Bush and the Iraq War, Fahrenheit 9/11.

Fahrenheit 11/9 marks Moores second film about Trump, following his surprise 2016 movie, Michael Moore in TrumpLand. The 73-minute feature documented a live show Moore performed in October 2016 in Wilmington, Ohio, the seat of Clinton County, which ended up voting overwhelmingly for Trump.

Hating Seth MacFarlane: A Timeline


He was one of the youngest TV executive producers in the mediums history, created not one but two successful animated programs, hosted the Oscars and had a blockbuster comedy bring in beaucoup box office receipts. He has contributed $1 million to the Reading Rainbow kickstarter fund and produced the recent reboot of the classic science series Cosmos; Harvard named him their2011 Humanist of the Year. Yet Seth MacFarlane has managed to inspire an intense, rabid hatred of his raunchy comedy and retro-dude attitudes thats been as fervent as the fanbase that brought the canceled Family Guy back to life. Its a sentiment that seemed to reach a fever pitch this past weekend with the poorly received release ofTed 2 the sequel to his2012 hit thats garnered its fair share of condemnation for a racial-allegory story about the titular profane teddy bears attempts to be legally recognized as a person.

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Those criticisms are the latest in a long line of censures for the 41-year-old filmmaker, whos been the target of scorn and ridicule ever since he first hit it big in TV animation. Call it Sethenfreude: the irrepressible urge to hate on MacFarlane, which as our timeline indicates, has been steadily escalating for the past 16 years.

1999-2000: Family Guy
An offshoot of MacFarlanes Life of Larry, his thesis film at the Rhode Island School of Design, Family Guy scored a prestigious premiere slot directly after Super Bowl XXXIII; Fox had hoped to make the show about an Archie Bunker-like loudmouth part of a primetime-animation one-two punch. From the very beginning, however, the show was immediately savaged for its juvenile, scattershot and often-bigoted absurdity elements that would become both its, and MacFarlanes, calling card. In particular, the shows crude humor attracted the ire of Entertainment Weeklys TV critic.

Family Guy about dumbbell dad Peter Griffin, his wife, three children, and dog is The Simpsons as conceived by a singularly sophomoric mind that lacks any reference point beyond other TV shows. . .the acclaim for writer-artist-actor MacFarlane (who does three regular voices on the show) is shaping up to be the hollowest hype of the year. Ken Tucker, Entertainment Weekly, 4/9/99

When it came time for EWs worst shows of the list, guess what Tucker singled out? The write-up would help spark a long-running feud between the critic and MacFarlane (including some choice Family Guy episode digs at Tucker), and contributed to the notion that the comic was thin-skinned and vindictive in addition to someone who traded in wannabe-extreme offensiveness.

Racist, anti-Semitic, and AIDS jokes; shoddy animation; stolen ideas: the cartoon as vile swill. Ken Tucker, Entertainment Weekly, 12/24/99

Not surprisingly, the show attracted the ire of several TV watchdog groups, including the Parents Television Council, whove objected to the shows tendency to push the envelope of good taste. They petitioned Fox to drop the show as early as 2000; the network eventually did give the series the axe after three seasons in 2003, due to low ratings.

2003-2004: Cartoonists Arent Impressed, Part 1
As the shows reruns began to air on the Cartoon Networks Adult Swim block and attract a new fanbase, other cartoonists began to air their dissent including The Simpsons producer Al Jean (To be honest, I thought it was a little too derivative of The Simpsons to the point where I would see jokes we did, he told the UGO Networks. They should be more original.) and Ren & Stimpy creator John Kricfalusi (If youre a kid wanting to be a cartoonist today, and youre looking at Family Guy, you dont have to aim very high. You can draw [that show] when youre 10 years old, he said in a Cartoon Brew interview. The standards are extremely low.) MacFarlane ended up getting the last laugh, thanks to the DVDs of the first few seasons bringing in record number of sales and Fox resurrecting the now-popular series to higher ratings.

2005-2006: Family Guy Returns; Cartoonists Arent Impressed, Part 2
Despite the renewed interest in the show (and Fox greenlighting a second successful MacFarlane series, American Dad), the show remained the same: boorish, boundary-pushing, ready to tackle controversial subjects for controversys sake and more than willing to pander to the lowest-common denominator for a laugh. Several critics responded in kind notably the Philadelphia Inquirers Jonathan Storm, who called it [an] infantile sleaze-a-thon (4/30/05).

Naturally, the vitriol was directed primarily at MacFarlane for indulging in xenophobic jokes and pop-culture-referencing cutaways for no apparent reason a notion spoofed in a South Park episode that imagined the shows writing staff as manatees randomly assembling nouns, verbs and celebrity names to form the shows jokes.

According to South Parks Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the episode Cartoon Wars (4/12/2006) generated a lot of backslapping from fellow Family Guy haters in the industry.

When we did the Muhammad episode, we got flowers from the Simpsons people because we ripped on Family Guy. Then we got calls from the King of the Hill people saying, Youre doing Gods work ripping on Family Guy. Even though it was this big political thing about Muhammad and whatever, everyone was just, Thank you for you ripping on Family Guy.' Trey Parker, interview with Reason.com, 12/5/2006

2011: Music Is Better Than Words
A classically trained singer who often embellished Family Guy with lavish musical numbers, MacFarlane channeled his lifelong love of Sinatra-era tunes into a 2011 album of Forties and Fifites covers, Music is Better Than Words (on which he used one of Ol Blue Eyes actual microphones). The album earned a few Grammy nominations, though some critics largely saw it as further proof of MacFarlanes smarmy look-at-me ego, his knack for plagiarism and his general sense of phoniness a second-hand Rat Pack-era suit draped over a classless act.

The result is alternately audacious and befuddling . . . Devotees will search in vain for the necrophilia punch lines, while Sinatra fans will search in vain for a plausible explanation. Have fun rebooting The Flintstones, asshole. Garrett Kamps, Spin, 9/27/11

A vanity project that evades any rational explanationMacFarlane is so concerned about inhabiting Sinatras silken suits he doesnt really care about the meaning of the songs; all that matters is sounding like Ol Blue Eyes, which MacFarlane does about as well as any number of hotel lounge singers this world over. Sure, its a surprise that he can carry a tune, but its no surprise that MacFarlane, who came to fame and fortune by telling obvious jokes so slowly a dog could understand, considers his competence as proof of his excellence, his smugness bearing no swagger, his self-satisfaction undercutting his otherwise perfectly pleasant surroundings. Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All Music Guide, 2011

2012: That New Yorker Profile; Ted
Claire Hoffmans 2012 New Yorker profile, timed to MacFarlanes live-action film debut Ted, painted the comedian as a Hollywood celebrity obsessed with his own appearance and wealth. (He eats caviar! He lives in an opulent mansion!). He also comes off as someone who arrogantly shrugged off accusations of sexism and racism by claiming that he was actually using insulting jokes to make fun of intolerance. It bolstered the idea of MacFarlane as a poseur too vain to be truly self-aware.

We are presenting the Archie Bunker point of view and making fun of the stereotypesnot making fun of the groups, he said. But if Im really being honest, then maybe theres a part of me thats stuck in high school and were laughing because were not supposed to. I dont know the psychology. At the core, I know none of us gives a shit. Seth MacFarlane, The New Yorker, 6/18/12

Ted was a box-office smash: its $219 million domestic haul is eighth highest ever for an R-rated feature. However, to many, it was reconfirmation of the writer-directors predilection for bad-taste jokes imbued with an unmistakable measure of defensiveness; objecting to them somehow made one a stuffy prude or an old fogey. To an even greater degree than his prior work, the movie also highlighted that he was an equal-opportunity offender only when it came to people (including those suffering from ALS) who didnt look or think like him.

Seth MacFarlane does seem like the person who would use the term political correctness as a relevant pejorative in the year 2012The jokes in Ted are equal-opportunity sluggish: The inoffensive ones are just as limp and tired as the offensive onesTed is soulless, angry-white-guy comedy at its worst. Honestly: This is a smug, nasty little number. Will Leitch, Deadspin, 6/26/12

2013: The Oscars
MacFarlanes 2013 Oscar-hosting gig was something of a disaster, what with its less-than-winning bits about blackface and its crass song We Saw Your Boobs. On Hollywoods biggest stage, he exposed his greatest shortcomings: a fondness for self-referential gags, a love for derogatory (but supposedly all-in-good-fun!) one-liners about women, gays and minorities, and enormous song-and-dance set pieces all of which were infused with an overpowering whiff of MacFarlane self-satisfaction.

MacFarlane was uncomfortable, smarmy, unfunny and not even bad in any memorably creative wayThe problem and the problem with his whole table-setting performance is: first, a metajoke about telling an unfunny joke is still an unfunny joke. And second, the Oscars are not about the host. James Poniewozik, Time, 2/25/13

Oscars fans have seen a lot over the years, but this may be the first time theyve ever seen a host use the awards to audition for his own variety showAwash in self-indulgence, neither he nor his 3-hour-and-35-minute show ever seemed to hit a comfortable, confident stride. Robert Bianco, USA Today, 2/25/13

The jokes just got more and more well, whats the word? Calling them offensive gives them too much power, which isnt to say that black people shouldnt have felt uncomfortable about MacFarlane pretending to mix up Denzel Washington and Eddie Murphy, or that half the population neednt have squirmed when MacFarlane called Zero Dark Thirtys plotline an example of a womans innate ability to never ever let anything go. What the jokes were, really, was stupid, boring, and empty: humor that relied less on its own patently sexist, racist, homophobic, etc. content than on admiration for or disgust with the hosts willingness to deliver it. Spencer Kornhaber, The Atlantic, 2/25/13

Lots of people like Seth MacFarlane. Many other people like watching the Oscars. But nobody likes both, not even Seth MacFarlane, who has no idea what the Oscars are. . . The poor guy couldnt read off the teleprompter without his eyes darting nervously, giggling at his zingers about how foreign people have accents, musicals are gay, etc. He kept making amateur mistakes on the level of clapping into his mike. (Lots of that.) He sang a show tune about the hot nudity in The Accused 30 seconds of Googling would have explained why that line wasnt a keeper, but obviously Seths staff was too chickenshit to give the boss any bad news. Rob Sheffield, Rolling Stone, 2/25/13

2014: A Million Ways to Die in the West
The critical and commercial underperformance of MacFarlanes Western spoof was largely a byproduct of his more-of-the-same stubbornness. Again mirroring his Family Guy and Ted templates, the movie was a dreary cornucopia of rapid-fire jokes that, whenever possible, centered on bodily fluids and raunchy sex. Compounding matters, MacFarlane, in his first headlining big-screen role, could no longer hide behind a cartoon baby or a CGI bear; here, like at the Oscars, he was the face of his smug, infantile humor.

A Million Ways to Die in the West huffs and puffs to seem daringly outrageous and too often settles for being merely gross, unless your idea of cutting-edge comedy is a close-up of a sheeps penis urinating on the hero. The scripts casual profanity has no shock value to it anymore its just how dull people talk to each other these daysthe movies content to smear excrement on a beloved genre as inoffensively as possible. Like so many funny-men before him, MacFarlane aims for the big time and makes a classic mistake: He wants us to like him. Ty Burr, The Boston Globe, 5/29/14

Picture an entire movie spawned by the campfire scene from Blazing Saddles, and youre almost there. All this will speak to your soul, no doubt, if you are a twelve-year-old boy who believes the bathroom to be the funniest place on earth, but what about the rest of us? Fear not, for MacFarlanewho co-wrote and co-produced the film, as well as starring in ithas joys in store for those of more cultivated tastes. There are gags about retarded sheep, Chinese immigrants, the halitosis that follows a blow job, and the precise appearance of the pudenda after a spell in the sex trade. As is his wont, MacFarlane is daring us to be disgusted; and, should we flinch, his movie will mock us for being prim the worst of all crimes, in his scabrous world. But what if were just bored? Anthony Lane, The New Yorker, 6/9/14

2015: Ted 2

Seth McFarlane

Despite being an outspoken public supporter of equal rights for all, MacFarlanes Ted 2 has been slammed for preaching progressive acceptance on the one hand, and then indulging in his usual homos and sexually/racially degrading shtick on the other. The films box-office failure was seen by many as karmic retribution. Making matters worse, MacFarlane then went on Twitter to use the Supreme Courts groundbreaking gay-marriage decision to publicize the films release. A tone-deaf social-media marketing strategy-cum-joke, it once again suggested that hes a comedian who doesnt quite understand the difference between amusing and offensive outrageousness as well as being a tactless narcissist whos never happier than when making himself the center of inappropriate attention.

Seth MacFarlane, whose sense of humor generally bodes about as well for moviegoers as a dorsal fin does for swimmersMacFarlane would seem to identify as progressive, but he uses his liberalness conservatively, to berate what he thinks is normal or safe or established in American culture. His tolerance is tinged with intolerance. Wesley Morris, Grantland, 6/24/15

To Rome With Love


Can Woody Allen do for the Eternal City what he did for the City of Light in his Oscar-winning script for Midnight in Paris? Dont get greedy. To Rome With Love lacks the overarching theme of time and regret that distinguished Allens last romantic comedy, but it has pleasures galore. Start with a voluptuous Penlope Cruz as a hooker trying and failing hilariously to pass herself off as the wife of a new groom (Alessandro Tiberi) to fool his conservative family. Move on to the Woodman himself as a retired opera director, in Rome with his wife (Judy Davis) to meet the Italian fiance (Flavio Parenti) of their daughter (Alison Pill). It turns out the fiances undertaker father can sing like Pavarotti in the shower. No wonder, since famed tenor Fabio Armiliato plays the role. The fun uncorks when Allens bumbling American tries to bring the undertaker and his shower to the opera stage.

And so it goes in this episodic culture-clash comedy in which the laughs are decidedly hit-and-miss. Allen scores comic points at the expense of reality-show fame by casting Italys Oscar-winning clown Roberto Benigni as an ordinary guy who becomes famous for nothing until the paparazzi move on to the next nothing. But the joke wears thin.

The most touching segment features a tart and tender Alec Baldwin as a vacationing architect who encounters a younger version of himself in Jesse Eisenberg and advises him not to make the same mistakes, like having sex with the BFF (Ellen Page) of the woman you love (Greta Gerwig).

What links all these characters is Rome itself, and cinematographer Darius Khondji (Midnight in Paris) uses the city as a canvas to paint with color and light. Tourist traps are largely avoided. This is the vital city that inspired Fellini alive and lived in. When an actor falters or a joke falls flat, Roma stays fresh and dynamic. You cant take your eyes off it.

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From Jackie to Neruda: How Pablo Larrain Is Reinventing the Biopic


Yeah, man, I mean, theyre so boring. Boring, and kind of dangerous.

Pablo Larran is looking out the window of his hotel room, staring at the folks in the windows of their hotel rooms across the street from where hes staying in New York. Nothing salacious is happening, mind you; no one is getting undressed, or murdering their spouse, or jumping on top of their bed to a Beyonc song. But the 40-year-old Chilean director is still fascinated by the rows of what he calls glass movie screens facing him, several of which have their curtains open and feature the occasional appearance of people going about their daily routines. The sense of real life just happening thats what you want to capture when you make a movie, he says, and begins describing how he observed someone in a single-occupancy conducting a long Skype call earlier in the day. It was an incredible found, un-self-conscious moment. I love those.

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He turns his gaze back to the person sitting across from him. Sorry, you asked me what I thought about biopics. Like I said, theyre usually boring. I dont really like them. Larran lets the statement hang in the air for another few seconds. Which sounds odd to say to you right now, I know.

A little odd, yes, because the filmmaker in an accidental moment of market saturation is in midtown Manhattan to promote not one but two new movies that technically fall into that particular genre. The first, Jackie, focuses on Jacqueline Lee Kennedy in the days following her husbands assassination; though it drops in before moments such as her 1962 televised White House tour, the movie mostly follows the First Lady during the aftermath, from co-ordinating his funeral to conducting an interview based on Life magazines famous Camelot feature. It opened in theaters on December 2nd, it is Larrans first English-language film, and it features the sort of stunning performance from Natalie Portman thats already generating some deafening awards-season drumbeating.

The second, Neruda, finds Larran tackling the life and work of Chiles famous poet/politician Pablo Neruda, albeit with a twist. Though it features actor Luis Gnecco playing the Nobel prize-winner as hes forced to flee his home country in the 1940s, the story unfolds mostly through the eyes of a slightly incompetent fictional police inspector (Gael Garca Bernal) whos doggedly chasing him. Only a smattering of the great mans writings and speeches make it into the movie; those unfamiliar with his early years or how his Communist affiliations made him a marked man may find themselves playing catch-up. It opens this weekend, its a project that predates Jackie and, thanks to Bernals goofy-parody-of-a-hardboiled-gumshoe performance, is as much about Borgesian literary games as it is the wind of banners that passed through the poets life. For someone who dislikes screen portraits of iconic figures, Larran hasnt exactly shied away from making two of them back to back.

But his reluctance to embrace the cradle-to-grave model normally associated with such movies, and his refusal to simply rely on an iconic subjects greatest-hits collections for material, not only sets this double-shot apart from the biopic pack. He also gives credence to the growing notion that, by taking a more fragmented, expressionistic route, you actually get closer to nailing the complexity of a life famously lived. And while Larran isnt the first one to discover that a just-the-facts-maam approach can be maddeningly limited, he has made the strongest case yet for treating the biopic as the beginning of a story as opposed to the final word. By not sticking to the rules, he may be finally liberating the genre from being reduced to one regurgitated history lesson after another.

Thats exactly why I added dangerous earlier, Larrain says, in regards to that last point. Those types of movies become all about trying to pin that person down, to make a permanent record. Or its, Well, who is going to play this guy or that guy? How are they going to talk? But you cant pin Pablo Neruda or Jackie Kennedy down. You need to create a poetic mood rather than just having actors recite somebodys words in a film. You need to feel life in them. Because, otherwise, you risk being everything from tacky to stupid to irrelevant to all those other words you want to avoid being called.

In fact, when Larrans brother first approached him with the idea of doing a movie about Pablo Neruda roughly eight years ago, the filmmaker thought the notion felt impossible, and ridiculous. Hes part of landscape, our DNA in Chil. I thought, I dont have the guts to sit down and put words in the mouth of someone called Neruda. I just dont. After his third movie the breakthrough 2012 drama No, about a marketing manager (played be Bernal) working on a TV ad campaign for the nations 1988 referendum he began to warm to the idea enough that he reached out to screenwriter Guillermo Caldern. His first draft was much more conventional, Larran says. Then, as we worked on it more, somebody came up the idea of inventing Gaels character, the cop. I dont remember who thought it; I know Guillermo gets the credit, however, because he actually wrote it!

But suddenly, everything shifted, he adds. If you cant get at why Neruda is important in terms of poetry, literature and politics, theres no point. And by inventing this detective, we realized in a way that this was the best way to get at all of that.

I remember Pablo saying he might do something about Neruda when we were shooting No, Bernal says, talking about the movie in a separate interview. But by the time he finally came to me with the idea of being in the movie, things had changed drastically: Oh, so you want me to play some sort of avant-garde, film-noirstyle character whos a fascist? The kind of guy who answers a question by just smoking a cigarette? OK . That you could use humor to get at the humanity of this mans status as both a fugitive and one of the most famous poets of the 20th century its revolutionary. If you want to make a straight biographical film about where someone went and when, you can just film someones passport. The idea that you can live many lives inside of one life is a much more complex idea to tackle.

You cant pin Pablo Neruda or Jackie Kennedy down. You need to create a mood. Otherwise, you risk being everything from tacky to stupid to irrelevant.

Bernal was in as the Inspector Closeau-like cop, but first he was committed to filming a movie with Werner Herzog; Larran also had to wait for some extra financing to come through and for Gnecco, who was playing Neruda, to gain back a bunch of weight he had just dropped over a number of months. (I think Luis is still mad at me for that, the director says, putting his head in his hands.) While they were in a holding pattern, Larran and Caldern made another film The Club, a dark, twisted tale of several defrocked priests living together as a way of Church-sponsored penance that was accepted to the Berlin Film Festival. The jury foreman that year was Darren Aronofsky, who was a fan; while in Germany, he sought out Larran and told him about a script he had. It was the story of Jackie Kennedy, telling her side of an American tragedy; Aronofsky had originally been slated to direct it as a project for his ex-wife Rachel Weisz but was now on solely as a producer. He wanted Larran to direct it. The response was: Why the hell are you asking a Chilean director to do this?

His answer was, maybe this needs someone whos not American, Larran recalls. Maybe, because this wasnt my history, I would be able to see things differently. I was still sort of unsure, but then I talked to my mother, who essentially told me I had to do it. When I asked her why, she replied, Pablo, you dont understand: Shes a woman who showed strength, and thats important for every woman in the world.'

He got back to Aronofsky and said he was interested; the best person to play Jackie, he thought, would be Natalie Portman. Unbeknownst to him, the Black Swan star had already been circling the project for a long time. Shed been involved, and then she briefly wasnt involved, Larran says. That gap happened to have been when I came on, however, so when I suggested her, I thought I was being a genius. Everyone else was like, Dude, youre a little late to this party. There was something about her eyes she has the same sense of mystery that Jackie did. It just made sense.

Director Pablo Larrain and Natalie Portman on the set of JACKIE.

Pablo likes to leave things unsaid, Portman says about the directors love of ambiguity, via email. But during their respective research periods leading up the production during which time Larran was filming and editing Neruda she claims there was a constant back and forth as they arrived at a mutual vision of who Jackie was. He would talk about her love of objects and of beauty; I would mention her fear of having experienced something she couldnt wholly remember. He would send me an interview where she accidentally says she doesnt love her husband; I thought she probably didnt like the public perception of her as the woman you want to marry. There were a lot of exchanges.

But when we got around to filming, she adds, he lit the entire set and had handheld cameras, so you could go wherever you want physically or emotionally. He let us be totally free (or at least feel that way), which meant you found yourself going to these really unexpected places in scenes.

Few other directors would allow such lets-see-where-this-goes explorations when faced with the daunting notion of recreating the moment that an almost universally beloved First Lady dealt with an era-changing moment. Its not until you see what Larran accomplishes with his unusual telling, however, that you realize this project probably would not have worked any other way. From the inventive use of Mica Levis droning score to giving Portman the creative space to find the person beneath the blood-splattered pink suit and steely protectiveness, his idea of throwing the usual template out the window helps him make something much more unique: an immersive, impressionistic look at grief, power and even motherhood as told through the lens of one endlessly scrutinized, Sphinx-like celebrity. As with Nerudas absurdist take on a literary giant, Jackie almost feels like its inventing a new subgenre the interior biopic.

It made her feel real, he says, regarding the stream-of-consciousness approach. More real than if I just told you what happened. Like looking at her through a window. He gestures outside.

And though Larran claims the fact that both of these skewed, subjective takes on sociopolitical giants are hitting theaters in the same month is a total fluke, he certainly doesnt the downplay the fact that, seen together, theres a connection between them. I swear to God, Ive dreamed of Neruda and Jackie sitting in a room, talking to each other, he says with a laugh. I really do think that theres a conversation going on between these two movies in a way I could not have anticipated. Or maybe its a chess match.

But it wasnt until I started doing promotion for both of these movies, he adds, and talking to people that I realized: Theyre both these sort of ungraspable figures. Ill tell you, I spent months making movies about these two people, and I still have no idea who they are. The more I dive into them, the more mysterious they are to me.

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