Last night, for the first time in several months, Matthew McConaughey wasnt at home watching his favorite show on TV: HBOs True Detective, in which he stars as the brilliant but deeply troubled homicide cop Rustin Rust Cohle. Im doing what the publics doing, he says. I received all eight episodes, but I said, You know what? Im gonna check them out each Sunday night and then sit on each episode for a week. Ive found myself going back and watching each one of them about three times during the week and fucking really enjoying it.
The Dark Thrills of True Detective
He had a pretty good reason for missing the seventh episode: McConaughey was at the Academy Awards, where he got called dirty-pretty by Ellen DeGeneres, flirted with Kim Novak as they presented the animated movie awards and, ultimately, scored the Best Actor statue himself for Dallas Buyers Club. Congratulations! McConaugheyhas confirmed he wont return to the show for Season Two, but gamely answered our questions about Season One:
How does Rustin Cohle fit into the great, acclaimed work youve been doing for the last couple of years?
Oh yeah.Russtiiiinnn Cohhhhlllle.Ha ha! You know, Ive been able to find such clearly identifiable characters, whether its Mark Hanna in Wolf of Wall Street or Ron Woodruff in Dallas Buyers Club. Look at Dallas in Magic Mike and Joe in Killer Joe these are characters with such clear obsessions. Ive said this before, but thats what Ive been choosing: Somebody who I could get drunk on their obsessions. Characters that live on the fringe theyre all a little bit on the outskirts of civilization. I find a certain ownership and freedom in that.
Hows True Detective spinning out for you? Does it feel different than it felt when you were shooting it?
No, Im very impressed with it. What did I know going in? I loved the writing. I read the first two episodes, and I said, If you guys will let me be Cohle, Im in. I was like, Jeez, I cant wait to hear what comes out of this fucking guys mouth on the page. Plus I was a fan of [True Detective director] Cary FukunagasSin Nombre. And the fact that wed be shooting film boy, that really shows.
Maybe even more than in Dallas Buyers Club, your body language and your cadences feel so transformed from the very deliberate, sober Cohle of 1995 to the shattered Cohle of 2012 and this wild, undercover narcotics officer that Cohle plays, who goes by the name Crash.
I remember making some choices about how to play 1995 Cohle to really underplay it and keep things boiling underneath. And I remember at about week five or six, getting a little anxious. Wooh, do I need to do more? Do I need to do something different? Is this gonna be boring? But I was like, Trustthe 2012 Cohle. Trust that Crash is coming and allow there to be a dynamic in there, McConaughey. Looking at the work now, Im glad I didnt try to give Cohle more colors in 95.
How much Cohle is there in showrunner/creator Nic Pizzolatto, or vice versa?
Well I dont know. Nics not Cohle but Nic sure as hell knows Cohle, probably the best out of all the characters. Theres also parts of me in there, I think. What I love about Cohle is everything he says is true. Like it or not. He cant suffer fools, and to get through everyday life, you have to suffer fools. Cohle cant do that. No illusions. Absolutely not.
You need illusions to get through life.
Most people need them to get by. But Nic doesnt suffer fools either; thats one of the reasons I really like the guy. Its not about manners and grace. Thats part of where he and I get along, because we can be brutally honest, and we dont think its brutal. You know what I mean? Were just like, Oh thanks, I know where you stand, you know where I stand.
Do you see yourself working with Nic in the future?
Yeah. I sure do. Nic and I have certain similar sensibilities. The way he writes roles that I would like, with singular voices and perspectives and their own personal politics. I want to do more with him. Im absolutely sure.
When they first approached you about the show, Nic was thinking of you for the part of Cohles partner, Martin Hart. But once you were cast as Cohle, you suggested Woody Harrelson for that part. What was it like having him as the guy that you went through this thing with?
Woody and I have always done comedy together. As Woody puts it: He hits the ball to me, I hit it back harder, he hits it back harder than I hit it to him, and we volley back and forth. Thats part of the beauty of us, and thats part of the beauty of our friendship. But this is about opposition. This is about not being on each others frequency.
But even though its such a dark show, the odd couple nature of your relationship produces some very funny moments.
I didnt know we were going to get that much humor out of it. Some people go, Whats so damn funny? I go, I dont know, man. Maybe its my sense of humor. I find how these two go back and forth with each other hilarious.
You guys were all together down there, living in New Orleans and shooting along the coast for almost six months. What was it like?
It was an endurance test. It was long. We shot 450 pages in six months. And Im not the biggest, everyone-go-hook-up-after-work guy. I dont go out on school nights.
So it wasnt Fast Times with Woody and Matthew in New Orleans?
Im not much into that. Ive got a family; Woodys got a family.
But Nic did mention one heavy tequila night you guys had early on.
Well, thats what I was saying earlier about Nic, about how he and I could share the brutal truth. We said some things to each other that night that most people would wake up the next day and go, I think I completely severed my relationship with that other person. But I was like, What a great night! And he was the same way. We flipped off into the fourth dimension and then let off a lot of steam, let out a lot of things.
Have you done it again since?
Yeah, weve done it a couple of times since. I always like a good night with Nic, and even Woody sometimes, where you want to make sure you dont really have anything to do the next day. Or maybe even the next day after.
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